Thread: Dual fuel-propane and gasoline

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lamin8r, my Dodge was supposed to be dual fuel but the PO never used the gasoline EFI so it was all clogged up and disconnected. At -40, I had to drive something else, the propane wouldn't flow.
Another thing...with any pressurized gas, you can't use underground parking, and they get all hyper when you drive on a closed ferryboat. They make you shut off the tank valve as soon as you stop. And I've been told, but never looked in to it, that if your garage goes up in flames with a propane vehicle in it, there's no insurance. Which all seems strange when you consider how many little forklifts there are in big warehouses that are running on propane so the monoxide doesn't kill everybody!
BTW, you are talking LPG gas, which is a different animal altogether from propane. Thousands of pounds pressure in the tank instead of less that a hundred with propane. Around here, you need a megabuck compresser to use that stuff. A neighbour had a test setup installed for free, and he still said it didn't pay! He ran all his tractors on LPG, as well as his road vehicles. In busy farming seasons, the compresser couldn't keep up with the demand of all the machines needing fuel every night.
No, thanks, I'll stick with gasoline!

Rereading posts, I think I have mixed up LNG with LPG a few times.

Originally Posted by R Pope

Rereading posts, I think I have mixed up LNG with LPG a few times.

I know where you are coming from,,each to his own,and yes,regarding mix up,,I THINK the LNG is a problem child,,we dont have that down here[I dont think so],but there has been talk of an LNG installation at our little port of Taranaki,and no one wants a bar of it... because of that reason,,the pressure,and what would happen if it all went tits up..New Plymouth would disappear..[only get mauled a bit with LPG]I think that one of the reasons why the LPG has been a real good deal down here,is the distance we are from oil producing countries,even though we have the oil down here,its the cost of exploration,so the gas side has been put to good use..

As to hoses being ripped of and the vehicle exploding........ any _proper_ installation will have an excess flow valve in the tank outlet which makes this type of issue almost impossible. much less likely than a gas vehicle having a hose ripped loose and the vehicle bursts into a ball of flame.
Only in Hollywood.

Russ

I visited Las Vegas back in the 70's and, IIRC, the taxi driver we rode with mentioned that his taxi was running on Natural Gas. As a matter of fact, he thanked us as Canadians since the gas came from Alberta and he said he was saving a lot of money using it.

Well you know it's a cinch nothing has been changed or improved since the original stuff came out!!!!!

Kind of like in the early 1900's when many were sure that automobile thing was just a whim and they'd stick with their horses?????

40 years ago, before the takeover in agricultural self-powered implements with the diesel engines, many, many farmers were running dual fuel LPG and gasoline as a cost savings measure.... worked fine then! And now, some of these "idiots" running diesels are actually trying bio-diesel!!!!! Then we could go back to my original statement and they could just run a really nice team of Strawberry Roan workhorses and life would be much better, right???? Trying new things is both interesting and educational.....and sometimes they actually work out!

Just think,Dave..if ya tried to hitch up a pair of work horses now,there would be some namby pamby action group would probably try to get you into court for exploiting dumb animals...

Originally Posted by lamin8r

Just think,Dave..if ya tried to hitch up a pair of work horses now,there would be some namby pamby action group would probably try to get you into court for exploiting dumb animals...

Probably....

Originally Posted by lotsatoys

As to hoses being ripped of and the vehicle exploding........ any _proper_ installation will have an excess flow valve in the tank outlet which makes this type of issue almost impossible. much less likely than a gas vehicle having a hose ripped loose and the vehicle bursts into a ball of flame.
Only in Hollywood.

Russ

I hope you're not calling me a liar!

Originally Posted by NTFDAY

I hope you're not calling me a liar!

absolutly not. sorry if you took it that way. just saying a _proper_ installation makes a propane system very very safe, and nearly impossible to make explode. then again.... anything can and does happen under the right set of cercumstances (no matter what the fuel).

Russ

Found some good information here;

Main Page - Raso Enterprises Auto Parts

yeah, and now the by product costs more then the product they're refining for......Never have figured out how that works!!!!!

Dave..I wonder how many "Strawberry Roans" I'd need to pull my 44 foot air seeder? Or 60' of harrow/packer hitch?
I'd have to seed my whole farm to horse feed to keep 'em alive, and what would keep me alive?
Well, at least this year I'd have lots of water for 'em! 200 acres a couple of feet deep!

Originally Posted by R Pope

Dave..I wonder how many "Strawberry Roans" I'd need to pull my 44 foot air seeder? Or 60' of harrow/packer hitch?
I'd have to seed my whole farm to horse feed to keep 'em alive, and what would keep me alive?
Well, at least this year I'd have lots of water for 'em! 200 acres a couple of feet deep!

Wow!!! You guys have some big time flooding again, huh??? Do they offer "no plant" insurance up there? Brother in law farms all his land and mine, sez he'll be out about 160 acres this year from the water.....

Dave... there is a "flooded acres" deal with crop insurance that purports to give you 100 dollars an acre but the last time we got drowned like this, I applied for it and after all the tookage and screwage I got about 500 bucks! I run without that gov't program now. It takes a total failure just to get the premium back.