Thread: Stopped by the machine shop today.

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Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

They were pretty proud of that brush attachment and made me feel it. Glad you do the same thing, that is encouraging. The guy has some nice machinery in there, from what I could see. As I mentioned before, they also have an engine dyno and a chassis dyno, so it looks like they are serious about their work.

He also told me they are going to mildly chamfer (if that is the right word) the top edge of the cylinders to take the sharp edge off and make putting pistons and rings down in there easier, with less chance of catching one on the edge. That made sense to me too.

Don

well they should be that brush is alot of coin for that machine . just a note here you can over brush the walls . the midly chamfer is a thing i do on every bore less its still there from stock like the sbc have way to much.you should ask him if he breaks the edge off the bottom of the bores thats the one is were many guys screw up

..they do not do it ..

I'll ask them next time I am there...........thanks.

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

I'll ask them next time I am there...........thanks.

Don

yep and that the least the block should be hone with all mains cap TQ down and deck plates if they have them when it honed out

I'm pretty sure they don't have deck plates, they are hard to come by for a 455 Olds. Everybody carries the more common sbc bbc ones, but not enough call for oddballs like the Olds to warrant buying them. But I do know the mains are torqued because they had to get new ARP ones as the originals get ruined in the shot process.

Don

Originally Posted by Itoldyouso

I'm pretty sure they don't have deck plates, they are hard to come by for a 455 Olds. Everybody carries the more common sbc bbc ones, but not enough call for oddballs like the Olds to warrant buying them. But I do know the mains are torqued because they had to get new ARP ones as the originals get ruined in the shot process DON

there not hard to find i have had plates made by a shop that a better plate and price then BHJ makes so it not hard they just cost any were from $350to $500 + new so you have to do some engines to get them to pay for them self .but i buy them if the job calls for the need . it a good selling point to tell your customers you have a deck plate for there engine that other shops in town do not if the guys got a dyno cell a $400 plate should be no big deal no the shot will not hurt the bolt if he has the ampro sunnen set up with cut steel .the bake oven could

Maybe it was the baking. I thought he meant the shot, but now that you mention it I guess the heat would take the temper out of the bolts.

Don

Don i've always used Clevitte 77's and Hastings rings, never had a problem with either.

Steve, I am pretty much sure those are the brands we will be using. This engine really has us shaking our heads, there have been engines we put together with a lot less care that never missed a beat. Not sure what was up with this one but we sure are going to take our time so we don't have a repeat. I think the biggest mistake we made was in assuming the heads were done right because they were fresh rebuilds in plastic bags when we bought them. We figured there was no need to check anything as they had new ss valves, springs, etc. Never thought the guides would be sloppy.

We also don't know why two expander rings broke, but the pattern on the pistons seems to indicate they were too tight in their holes too. It might be a little noisier this time around, but it shouldn't have that problem again, either.

Don

Machine work complete,then send it out to Dr Olds Joe Mondello for assembly That would be ....

Yeah-yeah,with the heat wave I am having delusions.

Wish I could afford to do that, it would be done right. I got sticker shock the other day anyway.............I called this engine shop to see roughly what my bill was going to be and he said "Oh, somewhere between $ 3,000 and $ 3,500." I said "What!!!!" Then I realized he forgot he was not assembling the engine, just doing the machine work. He still hasn't worked up the final tab but it should be within normal machine shop prices.

I think I am going to take up crack cocaine, it has to be cheaper than this hot rod stuff.

Don

Well then let's see here.................S&H from Fort Meyers to Mich and back...................no wait.........Hey Pat ya have your vacation yet??.How ya feel about having a cranky Irish guy around for afew??.Of course that is assuming he could get threw airport security.

Just kidding now Pat don't get mad.

Originally Posted by 1gary

Machine work complete,then send it out to Dr Olds Joe Mondello for assembly That would be ....

Yeah-yeah,with the heat wave I am having delusions.

i hot tank and mag a 455 olds engine for guy that sell hard to find stuff .thats were it was going mondello s

Originally Posted by 1gary

Well then let's see here.................S&H from Fort Meyers to Mich and back...................no wait.........Hey Pat ya have your vacation yet??.How ya feel about having a cranky Irish guy around for afew??.Of course that is assuming he could get threw airport security.

Just kidding now Pat don't get mad.

this cranky irish more cranky then irish.. the sail boat engine mounts are kicking my ass all that up and down in that boat .i really know why i left working on boats 15+ years ago i care not to fly but i drive down i have customer down there. i need to get out of town any ways. shipping on the engine would of been $360. if i long block the engine i would of covered 1/2 of the shipping out of the bill

Come on Pat, you know you love working on boats.............especially SAIL BOATS !! At least you could have picked one made out of fiberglass, not concrete to get intimate with.

Don

oh i know glass boat nothing like getting one of the porupine quills under your finger nail