Thread: Help with vapor lock
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08-24-2011 02:52 PM #1
Help with vapor lock
Can I get some imput on what to do about vaopr lock?
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08-24-2011 03:02 PM #2
give us a list of symptoms
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08-24-2011 03:50 PM #3
When it's cold starts and runs good when it gets hot it don't run good and it want hardly start buck up till it cools down
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08-24-2011 03:55 PM #4
where are your fuel lines?? electric fuel pump ?? pump in front or in rear??Charlie
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08-24-2011 04:15 PM #5
Just to make sure we are talking the same thing, vapor lock is when fuel in the fuel lines changes from liquid to vapor, as the fuel pump cannot pump vapor, the engine stalls and usually will not restart until the fuel system has cooled enough for the fuel to return to liquid state. The term vapor lock is normally used to refer to the fuel vaporizing on a running engine.
Heat Soak is a condition where the fuel vaporizes in the fuel system after a hot engine is shut off. This will often occur where the fuel line runs very close to hot exhaust system components, engine block etc. It can also occur at the carburator. As the fuel sits stagnate in the fuel bowls it will expand (and in severe cases boil) and overflow into the intake manifold. If the level drops past a certain level the needle valve will open allowing the remaining fuel under pressure between the fuel pump and carburator to enter the fuel bowl causing additional flooding of the engine.
Vapor lock and heat soak problems are more common on carbureted engines using a mechanical engine mounted fuel pump. Vapor lock is normally not a major problem on fuel injected cars as the fuel system in under enough pressure to prevent the fuel from vaporizing.
Several factors can contribute to a vapor lock/heat soak problem.
Outside temperature.
Under hood temperature.
Quality of fuel (fuels containing ethanol have a lower boiling point than straight gasoline).
Fuel system routing.
Altitude (the higher the altitude, the less air pressure and liquids will boil at a lower temperature).
If it’s a vapor lock problem, common cures are:
Re-routing or insulating the fuel lines.
Adding a low pressure electric fuel pump at the tank to pressurize the fuel in the line to the fuel pump.
Adding a return fuel line as close to the carburator as possible to constantly circulate the fuel while the engine is running which will prevent the fuel from being in the lines long enough to pick up enough heat to vaporize.
Heat soak cures run from;
Better fuel
Setting the float level a little lower,
An insulating carburator spacerLast edited by Mike P; 08-24-2011 at 04:18 PM.
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08-24-2011 04:26 PM #6
I changed out the engine from a 350 to a 383 stroker the 350 had a fuel injection but I went back to carb on the 383. Fuel pump was left in the tank fuel filter about half way between front & rear of the car. I added a regulator to get the fuel pressure back to 6.5 psi. Fuel lines could be to close to heat from the machenical pump to the carb. I do have another filter before the fuel gets to the carb I've been told this could be the trouble.
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08-24-2011 05:05 PM #7
Fuel pump was left in the tank fuel ??????? the machenical pump to the carb.
How many fuel pumps are you using????Charlie
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08-24-2011 05:27 PM #8
The reason I left the pump in the tank special build on the tank to much trouble to get out. It's a 55 psi pump
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08-24-2011 05:34 PM #9
Are you running a return line from the regulator to the tank?Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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08-24-2011 05:44 PM #10
Yes 3/8 line
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08-24-2011 06:51 PM #11
I guess my question should have been why run two pumps???? the one in the tank will do just fineCharlie
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08-25-2011 03:07 AM #12
What I hve dont with 2 pumps could be causing the trouble I'll unhook the pump on the engine.
Thanks
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08-25-2011 05:05 PM #13
Problem solved I went from the regulator to the carb that fixed the problem. I'm not a big time engine builder that's why I'm asking you fellows.
Thanks for the help
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