I dont mind your insistance on understanding terminology accurately...I completely understand where you are comming from. I only want to do this job once (or have it done once) so I appriciate all of the help. I have never had any work done on the car, so I'm new to all of this. The car is in primer at the moment. Maybe I should keep that quarter and put a maco job on the car until I can afford to have it all done properly.