Thread: i need an e-brake

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i have a 9"ford rear end that came from a race car.
there are no emergency brakes on it (of course)
and i want to install some.
11 "drums
my question is.
what are the names of the parts i need to do this?

in other words
i need a shopping list.

thanks fellas!

2 or 3 different ways to get there. the easiest way is to go to a junk yard and buy another set of backing plates, that'll have your stuff. You could go to the raybestos web site and try to purchase what they offer, Dorman web site will have some of the bits and pieces too. But i would feel most comfortable doing the junkyard thing and getting the backing plates with pigtails intact, then disassemble and massage all the pieces so they are like new condition. I have never seen an emergancy brake system worn out - the lever and sector under the dash will get a lot of slop but at the wheel - they just need thorought going thru. To get the pigtail out of that socket in the backing plate use a small hose clamp, that will draw all those 'teeth' that spread out and make it a one-way fitting, the hose lamp will draw them down so you can start it and once past the mouth the clamp can be loosened and the pigtail will pop out.

Billy when I did the brakes on the 9" for my El Camino, I was able to source all the parts I needed new for just a few bucks from a "REAL" parts store.

Basically we looked up a car with the same diameter shoes (In my case a 64 Ford full size) and ordered the spring and self adjuster kits. The only 2 pieces I had to get from a donor were the transfer bar (The bar that goes between the 2 shoes at the top) and the lever that connects to the rear shoe and the cable attaches to).

Billy, are you saying the 9" rear axle housing doesn't have any brake components at all and you want to add 11" drums or you're asking about adding parking brakes to the 11' drums that are on the housing? Be a little more specific please.

Mike

Maybe this will help

http://www.broncocity.com/diagrams/C...hapter%209.pdf Page 279

Originally Posted by Mike52

Billy, are you saying the 9" rear axle housing doesn't have any brake components at all and you want to add 11" drums or you're asking about adding parking brakes to the 11' drums that are on the housing? Be a little more specific please.

Mike

i just need an e-brake
i already have 11x1 3/4 brakes installed.
sorry for the confusion

Lokar do a cable kit that is real easy to fit or as others have sais use the stock parts, The thing about the Lokar cables is that they are easy to shorten so the kit fits all.

Originally Posted by billy zz

i just need an e-brake
i already have 11x1 3/4 brakes installed.
sorry for the confusion

I have seen an e-brake disc that can be bolted to the pinion and it has a small caliper that bolts to the top of the disc.

This is the company that makes a pinion mounted emergency(parking!!) brake. I had one on a 'bucket several years ago plus started out with one on my '31 before I decided on rear discs. They satisfy the 'letter of the law' but I have to say - there are better choices - like the OEM arrangement. These really don't do a very good job of holding.

Pinion Mounted Park Brake

Originally Posted by Mike P

Billy when I did the brakes on the 9" for my El Camino, I was able to source all the parts I needed new for just a few bucks from a "REAL" parts store.

Basically we looked up a car with the same diameter shoes (In my case a 64 Ford full size) and ordered the spring and self adjuster kits. The only 2 pieces I had to get from a donor were the transfer bar (The bar that goes between the 2 shoes at the top) and the lever that connects to the rear shoe and the cable attaches to).

Originally Posted by roadster32

Lokar do a cable kit that is real easy to fit or as others have sais use the stock parts, The thing about the Lokar cables is that they are easy to shorten so the kit fits all.

Billy,
I agree 100% with Mike & Steve. I just finished going through the rear drums on my old '90 F150 and after my third trip to AutoZone to replace little parts that broke due to 20+ years of rust, wear & tear I learned that for about $30 I would have had mostly all new parts in three "kits" - the spring kit was for both sides at $7.50 and the self-adjustor was side specific at $10. If you get the transfer bar & spring plus the lever & retaining pin from a salvage yard you'll be in good shape. As Steve says, the Lokar kit is very easy to use, and shortening the cables to fit your application is drop-dead simple - even I managed it

Propshaft handbrake is very easy to make yourself, all you need is a disc to bolt on pinion yoke and a cable operated caliper, downside is they don't work that well.

Originally Posted by sunsetdart

I have seen an e-brake disc that can be bolted to the pinion and it has a small caliper that bolts to the top of the disc.

Originally Posted by sunsetdart

I have seen an e-brake disc that can be bolted to the pinion and it has a small caliper that bolts to the top of the disc.

Wintec is one of the comapanies that makes these.

I know it's already been mentioned above (both Steve & Dave) but I would think that a pinion style brake would be marginal at best, especially on steep inclines, due to the mechanical advantage of the differential gears. If you're wanting a functioning e-brake vs satisfying a legal requirement for a brake I'd go the OEM hardware approach.

Actually I think the mechanical gear advantage would be in favor of the pinion--however by the time you go to only one brake unit instead of two--then reduce the radius even more---you can't beat the oem stuff----

A good way to go IF a person wanted to do discs---Lincoln Versi?, Caddie ? or an Ford explorer conversion that did sell for only around $300 a few years ago---the Lincoln and Caddie calipers have parking brake locks internal for the disc where as the explorer takes special discs with the small drum for the parking brake---If I remember which is which--

The TSM and Wintec (a minor upgrade of the original Total Performance offering) use the old mechanical Airheart or a derivation of which use the 1.50 pads that were originally made for karts or quarter midgets. It is tiny. The mechanical advantage is less then optimum, depending on the hand brake lever length and your strength as that caliper has only ~1 inch lever on an 8 inch disc and unless you have machined that pinion mounting surface level and on the same plane (parallel to) as the disk, wont have full contact. Been there, etc, etc, etc ....

There is a later version that Wilwood used just pre-Explorer type, that is used on BOTH rear rotors, but uses a somewhat longer lever plus has a bigger surface (1.75 puck) along with 11.75 rotors.

This is my Wilwood version - and it will slide the tires if you apply while running down the road plus will hold on a hill: DSCN0452.JPG