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    Torque angle wrench?

     



    What would you suggest for a torque angle wrench? I'm about to step up to ARP rod bolts on the LS. Was looking at the Snap On Tech wrench. Not sure if I need to spend that kind of money but figure it might be good insurance instead of using a cheap one. What do you guys use? Anyone had any experience with CDI? Looks like they make Snap On's torque wrenches.

    I'm looking at a 454 LS stroker Warhawk block and heads so I know I'll use it for more that just a set of rod bolts.

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    I'm betting all engines will use this style torque procedure in the future. I am thinking of stepping up too. Just major money. Probably the last torque wrench you will ever buy.
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    cdi make snap offs
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    snap on dig. with back up beeper thats a joke on the back up beeper part and Sk yes cdi make snap offs i use rod stretch gauge as for tq angle is ARP telling you that ? if not then you better do the rods with there moly past and there TQ and stretch .the rods should have bolts in them or this the bolt a upgrade to your stock rods ? if so the rods may need to be cut for the crank as the radii chamfer can hit the crank bolt upgrade the rod big end should be checked for size .i do not care what any ones tells you this should be checked
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    Pat,

    Knew you'd answer Pat! Thanks. Your mailbox is full. I was going off of information I found the LS1 site. I'll see if I can find it again. Seems like everything with any torque value to it gets angle torqued.

    Keith,

    I bet your right. Figured I might as well get one.


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    I 've got both the 3/8 and 1/2 Snap-on---The truck guy loaned me 1/2 for a week and it was really great---was doing several cylinder hone and align hones that week---it worked super--- I didn't buy it---it was the 1/2 and was pretty heavy, so I bought the 3/8 one as it goes high enogh for most head bolts-- Later bought a 1/2 but got off e - bay as so many guys were selling there tools after the meltdown-----------got it for about half price---

    they work really good especially if you are somewhere that is cramped (under a van hood) and are absolutely the only way to do the crank snot bolt on an ls type engine---before this wrench used to use an 3/4 to 1/2 adapter and just tighten with a pipe til it broke off the adapter aquare!!!!

    All kidding aside---if looking at e bay or pawn shops---there are two versions that look alike and very similar---I think the one that has the angles is called atech3fr250 foe the 1/2 drice and atech2fr100 for the 3/8--

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    yep that box ... i think is not full ?so some thing is up with it
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    I bought a torque/angle wrench from Eastwood. Much cheaper than Snapon and it seems to work just fine. I'm also working on LS heads.
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    Cant you use the TA360 gauge on your existing torque wrench? From Snap On, its about
    $50

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    Ifffffff--- you are doing hundreds of these type fastners everyday----the Snap-on tool (or one like it) will be a reall time saver--

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    Duh, agreed, but if the guy is just assembling a single motor, it is a tad cheaper and NOTHarbor Freight crap.
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    Yikes a 500 dollar wrench! I see what Pat is saying when your using it for a living, but for a once every five year tool, that's gonna hurt! I think I'd go with the 119.95 Eastwood, over the 469.95 Snapon for the occassional home job!
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    In todays envirment---this lube, that lube, no the lube over there----and the fact that everything is torque to yield(maybe we should just use bungi cords wrapped around the block, pan, and heads/manifolds) aluminum heads/blocks, etc---it is extremely important to be exactly exact on the fastener tension and in my opinion the atech wrenches read out the torque and angles so you can verifyyour work--it isn't just a matter of being tight, but a matter of being round as your working on it as these modern engines have some very exacting clearances---guy across the street--zero outside, starts up his exploere, backs out into street and then wot down the street-------------------

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    Sounds like you'll be building him an engine soon
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    No we won't--I wouldn't let him near anything I got----

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