Thread: Clean a pan before welding
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10-08-2012 04:34 PM #1
Clean a pan before welding
I just got a decent deal on a 200-4R transmission that I plan to use in my 54 Stude wagon. Part of the reason I got a good deal is the pan has a small crack in it that I believe I can weld to repair. Looking for suggestions on getting it clean and oil free so I can make a good weld. I plan to use my MIG welder.
thanks
PatOf course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
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10-08-2012 04:49 PM #2
Gasoline. Make sure It's dry before you weld..
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10-08-2012 05:11 PM #3
I have used brake clean then a torch to heat it to get all residue off the metalCharlie
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10-08-2012 05:41 PM #4
Actually having read the article linked below I know that brake clean and welding do not mix. That's why I was asking for suggestions. Read this article, I think we have discussed it here before.
Brake Cleaner = Phosgene Article
thanks
PatOf course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
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10-08-2012 05:42 PM #5
I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND NOT USING BRAKE CLEANER.
Charlie's method would probably get rid of the residue, but I wouldn't take the chance.
It's been a while since this has been posted so it's probably worth doing again.
Brake Cleaner = Phosgene Article
EDIT: Looks like you beat me to it Stu.I've NEVER seen a car come from the factory that couldn't be improved.....
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10-08-2012 05:48 PM #6
dawn soap and water.
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10-08-2012 06:02 PM #7
The Posgene gas is produced by Tri Cloretheline being heated. That cemical is no longer used in brake clean... Shine's recomendation will work just fineCharlie
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10-08-2012 06:38 PM #8
Seems to me that a torch would burn out anything but the parent metal and leave you good to go, but then, I've never welded on a pan.PLANET EARTH, INSANE ASYLUM FOR THE UNIVERSE.
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10-09-2012 12:41 AM #9
pans is what steel or aluminum welded ? i would not use a mig for alum .if its steel just wash with thinner is all is needed i cross the ends of the crack with to small welds going across the cracks on the ends if alum drill the ends of the crack then v groove the part do not use soap some soaps need to be cleaned out not a big deal on steel but cast can be porous so just use thinner and a stainless steel brush i only would TIG it pre heat would be a very good idea to about 300 if a small tig or mig if your going to try to weld it if aluminumLast edited by pat mccarthy; 10-09-2012 at 12:49 AM.
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10-09-2012 03:45 AM #10
Wiping it first with lacquer thinner and then soap and water then blowing it dry. I would then use some 00 steel wool . You haven't said what the pan is made of, steel or aluminum. If it's steel it may have a coating on it that will need to be removed before welding and that will require more than steel wool.
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10-09-2012 03:50 AM #11
Might be a good time to consider a deep aftermarket pan for it.
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10-09-2012 12:06 PM #12
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10-09-2012 06:01 PM #13
Thanks everyone, it is a steel pan. Given the use planned for this car, the stock pan should be more than adequate.
PatOf course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!
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