Thread: computer controlled Lincoln
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03-30-2004 07:47 PM #1
computer controlled Lincoln
So I sell my perfectly Taurus so I can go to Washington State and buy my son's Lincoln Continetal (1996) cause he needs the money. Figured I'd use it as my driver while I work on the ol F100. Ran fine coming back to Iowa but now. Oh, boy. If I let it warm up without going out of town (easy to do in this little berg) and rev the heck out of it, it won't wind over 3000-4000 rpms. This is a DOHC 4.6 Ford motor. and it's kind of embarassing when you pull out to pass and it won't rev high enough to even shift up in the gears. It had Traction Control, Door Ajar warning lights on, and There is a multifunction device under the hood that is bonkers and I am waiting for the Ford Garage in Exira, Iowa to get the parts in. But they say that there is no engine codes in the OBD2 system. go figure. Anyone got any Ideas about what could be causing this. As I said if I rev the heck out of it when it's cold it runs alright.Duane S
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03-30-2004 08:01 PM #2
It's that motor that's the problem, I belive that was the first year for the 4.6. My dad had the Trition 4.6 ( truck version ) in his '97 F150 and he had tranny problems which, could relate to your under revving. My aunt had a '96 Towncar with the 4.6 and it gave a little grief but, nothing like that.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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03-30-2004 08:03 PM #3
your best bet is, find a '64 Continental and drive that daily.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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03-30-2004 08:40 PM #4
Matt
You got me worried about the future of tomorrow." Im gone'
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03-30-2004 08:44 PM #5
computer controlled Lincoln
amen to that ALDuane S
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03-31-2004 05:16 PM #6
I know a '64 Contenintal is not computer controlled and it's got points, that's obviouse, it just seems to me that, when cars started getting brains ( ECU's ) they started getting crappier. I really don't know how computer controlled vehicles work or, how to work on them ( cept brakes, plugs and wires and oil change ). Maby I should just say, get a reprogrammer ( hypertec, ect ) and try reprogramming the ECU, oh wait, try disconnecting the positive battery terminal, wait 10 seconds then, turn the car on ( with batt disconected ) then, reconnect battery and turn car back on, this should reset the system. If that fails buy the reprogrammer. That sounds like a faulty rev limiter now that I think about it, probbably a part of the ECU program tho.You don't know what you've got til it's gone
Matt's 1951 Chevy Fleetline- Driver
1967 Ford Falcon- Sold
1930's styled hand built ratrod project
1974 Volkswagen Super Beetle Wolfsburg Edition- sold
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03-31-2004 06:53 PM #7
coad-less
Oldf100fordguy
The reason that the engine will run fine when it's cold is cause the ECU is in open loop, when the o2 sensors and the coolant temp sensor get to the recomended min to go into closed loop thats when the ECU takes over. Anthing before that the ECU is running of fixed/preprogramed setting's. I do however find it hard to believe the a FORD shop cannot retrieve a trouble code, those things will come on for just about anything, eaven a loose gas cap! I would gestamate from not having seen the car that it's posiably an input sensor that has failed. The dash lights coming on has me wondering about the charging system though. Well Im sure it can be fixed, let us know what was wrong.
Travis
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03-31-2004 06:57 PM #8
trvis
I think you are probably right. They did say there was a multi-function unit under the hood that has failed and they have that on order, I am an old fart, so I don't remember what all the multfunction controlled. Well, I'll find out monday, cause that's when I take it back.Duane S
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03-31-2004 07:06 PM #9
Travis, Geez I spell real gooder. sorry about misspelling your name.Duane S
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03-31-2004 07:57 PM #10
That is Quite alright I have been called much werse, and I also forget how to spell more often then not. Thank God for Smart wommen Hollowren from acrosse the room on how to spell
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04-07-2004 10:49 AM #11
followup
well Travis, I got it back from the Ford Garage yesterday. The first thing I did was to initate a passing situation. (Yeah, I got on it). Right back to the same thing. Spit, sputter, refuse to rev. Turned right around and took it back. The mechanic says there no codes on the OBDII concerning the engine and he drove it and it ran fine. So,,,,,,,, I loaded his A$$ up in the passenger seat and commenced to show him. He said he didn't get on it and I said well, if you had read the initial complaint you would have seen that was when the problem occured. Anyway, he hooked up a fuel pressure gauge to the fuel rail and an onboard OBNDII reader. Final answer according to him is Bad Fuel Pump. Pressure goes away after 4000 lbs. I think it being shut down by the CPU as you suggested earlier, but can't make him or the Service Manager understand. It goes back tomorrow, Thursday. I let you know what happens.Duane S
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04-07-2004 10:54 AM #12
good grief
I should learn to proof read before I hit submit. that should say 4000 RPM's not lbs. Doh!Duane S
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04-09-2004 10:34 AM #13
final answer
Well, I was wrong, really wrong. It was the fuel pump. The new one turned it in to a running fool. God, I hate computer controlled vehicles. I can't do a thing with them. Give me a regular distributor and carb any day for my play things. I got so much into the Lincoln I'm going to have to keep it for a long time. At least it will give me good service while I work on the F100.
Thank guys for the help with this one. I really appreciate it.Duane S
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