Thread: Building 89 460 for 500 hp

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you will be fine with a cast crank the scat 9000 is nice crank it is about $440. with shipping and for china 4340 steel is 660.to 1100. then a usa made would be more. i would look at the 4340 steel if you think your going to use a power adder i am dealer for all after market cranks. need any help let me know. i move to the callies magnum crank for any thing over 800hp with a power adder.a good crank use them in the big engine builds here is one i did not to long ago did the 4.500 crank cast steel icon pistons scat I beam rods did some low buck thing like fill the EX cross over made up a baffle in the pan i told him how to do it and what to do save some money we .plug the two center hole in valley . spent abit of time cleaning up the inside of block working on drain back from the heads some other stuff then i tru -deck it with the bhj tru-deck setup . i then bored and honed it with a tq plate on the deck. small sold roller cam with morals hippo liters . the guy never had a 460 out this big every time he stop by he tells me how it runs

Originally Posted by rspears

Well Pat, I've never made any claims about the parts in my engine, and where they're made, and in fact I've been very open about running ProComp heads which are a China casting that were bought because my builder thinks they have more "meat" in the chamber area to allow more creative bowl porting; and that they were bought bare to ensure that the valves, springs & retainers were all good. I didn't specify any of the parts in my engine, but instead expressed that I was more interested in "best value", where I got the best available at the lowest cost, didn't simply throw dollars at names as opposed to going lowest cost, and I trust my engine builder. If you look at the facts, the US foundries have backed away from high alloy steels, and the only place that high alloy piping and other products is made is in the foundries of Japan, and yes, China. Most of the aftermarket automotive companies have shifted to China for their complete manufacturing process, from raw forgings through initial machining and then to finish machining because they can increase profits. A few have realized that there is really no choice on where to get their blanks and rough machined parts, but they import those rough and then utilize the skilled craftsmen in the USA to do the finish machining and secondary heat treating, paying the higher wage for more assurance of quality finished products.

Whose posts I like is my personal opinion. I may only like one phrase within someone's reply enough to hit that "Like" button. What is beyond me is what I've done to attract your ire? Based on posts in the past six months or so I'd venture that if I stated that the sky is blue you'd come back and argue about the hue of blue and that it's not a "true blue". The sad thing is that these rabbit trails do absolutely nothing to address the issues of the original poster, and in fact may make him wonder why he's here. With that I'll take Jerry's tack and say "I'm out of this one until the OP comes back with another question...", and maybe not even then unless I believe I can add some value. You have a blessed day.

well why are you wasting time with this post. you and dave are very slow ??? i stated that lunati core is made in china . your parts in your engine are made in china why should evey one get pissed out of shape ??op should be happy i let the guy know bout lunati. you can tell the guy why you did the china parts way .i never said any thing other then what i use and whats is not made in the usa any more . lunati is not made in the usa any more .you do not machine engines No. do you sell parts ? No . dave only knows how to hack cars up and make them look like$hit . not a engine builder god i hope not . but jump down me.. stating the facts about a part that he not used in 7 years. i am on the phone every day buying and selling parts. like i said no cue dave .. for one man machine shop and do machine work for two other machine shops so i think i do ok i have many customer they seem to like what i done for them this is not allways easy . i have 3 warehouse i deal with and can get just about any thing my customers need . so if i say something just on the off chance i may know what i am talking about as i do this stuff every day

Originally Posted by Dave Severson

Is there a translator in the house? I believe I was insulted!

here the translator but be for i tell you. why not pull hard on your pony tail and try to pull you head out of your a$$$

Boys,

I'll ask you to stop hijacking threads and take your "personal issues" offline.

Enough said.


Bill S.

Does not have much to do with the op but the best mills in the world are still in the US. It is all economics that is why Williams and most top pipeline companies have all their pipe made here to their own specs. API and ASME mill specs can be verified by heat # and grade.

Import pipe is unverifiable especially from China, No inspections or investigations are done until a death occurs from failure. Mill specs. (heat #) are bogus thus cheaper to buy. By the time a investigation takes place the companies are owned by others and changed names.

Bill-------


I have been reading these comments back and forth and also some of my posts have been getting the same treatment from Dave and Roger-


I need to stand up here and state to the whole club hotrod community that Pat and I are probably the only people on here that machine/build engines and/or deal with all these suppliers on a dailey basis-we not only understand the whys and why nots of engine building but also the issues of types of material for things like cranks,rods,pistons,valves,etc---
we also have to deal with customer wishes and/or budjets so we are very finely tuned to what is available for what cost to those customers.


This site is very close to losing me not only because of the picture posting thingie, (and I really want to thank Roger for trying to help me via Photo Bucket) but even more so I'm about ready to call it quits because of Dave's attitude about engine things(yes I do hate bracket racing) and Rogers nit picking about the way my posts are written and I'm 100% sure that Pat is close to doing the same thing.


You might want to contact Dave privately concerning his attitudes to various people on here as he is the sole reason that many have departed------


Jerry Clayton

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Bill-------


I have been reading these comments back and forth and also some of my posts have been getting the same treatment from Dave and Roger-


I need to stand up here and state to the whole club hotrod community that Pat and I are probably the only people on here that machine/build engines and/or deal with all these suppliers on a dailey basis-we not only understand the whys and why nots of engine building but also the issues of types of material for things like cranks,rods,pistons,valves,etc---
we also have to deal with customer wishes and/or budjets so we are very finely tuned to what is available for what cost to those customers.


This site is very close to losing me not only because of the picture posting thingie, (and I really want to thank Roger for trying to help me via Photo Bucket) but even more so I'm about ready to call it quits because of Dave's attitude about engine things(yes I do hate bracket racing) and Rogers nit picking about the way my posts are written and I'm 100% sure that Pat is close to doing the same thing.


You might want to contact Dave privately concerning his attitudes to various people on here as he is the sole reason that many have departed------


Jerry Clayton

yep i get the feeling there trying like hell to make me look bad when it comes to what i do. machine and build real engine every day in a real shop . i did find humor in it to a point. i am not the best word smith. now i am done with bull shit .try like hell guys. my name is not gary . i am very open on the web as i use my real name evey were i post on the net . i make a good target the shop name on my post and face book as well your wellcome to check it out any one that feels i do not know how to machine and build real engines face book Mccarthy performance see what guys say about me and parts i sell and engines i build