Thread: '30 Ford Brake/Clutch Pedal?

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Hi,

Newbie here to the forums. I am building a '30 ford coupe with my Dad and for the life of me, cannot find a brake/clutch pedal assembly that I can purchase without a master cylinder. I already have a 7" booster and MC, I'm just looking for the bracket and pedals. I had one ordered from Yogi's but found that the supplier went out of business. I checked with Pete@Jakes but they are all combo's just like TCI, plus they did not offer a power brake unit.

So, I came here in hopes of finding another solution. I have average fabrication capabilities so If I can get something close I can modify it. Any suggestions?

Thank you in advance for any help.
6696

I think I might have a set of originals from a 28 / 29 Tudor, if you're interested?

Welcome 6696! Hope you stick around and become an active part of the forum.

Did you call Pete & Jake's, or just look on-line. If you call talk to Jason. They offer a power boost option on their "kit", but they also sell pieces/parts individually -
1-800-334-7240

Would this work (might have to modify for Booster)?

AS-2030BC Brake and Clutch Pedal Kit for 1928-1931 Ford - Chassis Engineering Inc

Or this?:

BRAKE PEDAL KITS

Hey thanks guys! I will definitely look into a couple of these options. The link to the Deuce Frame Company was the one I had on order when I was told that he lost his supplier and had none on hand.

I have some calls to make, Thank you again,

32_40 I will definitely keep this in mind, I just don't know how much fabrication I am comfortable with on this specific peice. Just learned to Mig and working on my Tig skills

6696

Originally Posted by 6696

32_40 I will definitely keep this in mind, I just don't know how much fabrication I am comfortable with on this specific peice. Just learned to Mig and working on my Tig skills 6696

No worries.

The pedal actuation ratio is very important. You can't buy any pedal assembly, put a vacuum booster on it, and expect it to work properly. A lot of folks have posted problems, getting the correct combination of pedal ratio to work the particular master cylinder and brakes that they are using.

I bought a body/chassis, with a 7" single diaphragm booster, 3.8/1 pedal ratio and 1" master cylinder, but found the braking unimpressive with my high-dollar Wilwood disc brakes. A 7" dual diaphragm was better, but still not as powerful as I wanted.

I called Wilwood and got a recommendation for a minimum 8" dual diaphragm booster, to use with their brakes and a 1" master cylinder. I went a step further and reduced the master cylinder piston to 7/8" for more pressure. Now I've got brakes that are as easy to work as any new car.

A typical manual pedal assembly would have a pedal ratio in the 6-7/1 range, to use with a 1" master cylinder. Of course, it requires more pedal travel, than a boosted setup.

Vacuum boosters may also be troublesome if you've got an engine with a big cam and low vacuum. A hydraulic booster may be the answer.

Really?

Okay that just made the decision for me. I have a few numbers to check now but I will go with a power set up from the start. Looks like I will have an extra MC....maybe I'll save it for my next project

Thank you much,

6696

6696, that's excellent advice from Dave. I was having similar problems, but with manual brakes. The roller chassis I bought came with a 1" Vette MC designed for a disc/drum combo. Needless to say, braking sucked. I almost needed a drogue chute to stop from 30 mph. I increased my pedal ratio significantly and changed to a 7/8" master cylinder. My '34 weighs about 24-2500 lbs, and the brakes are great - without a power booster..

Hey I sure appreciate all the guidance here. I just ordered the TCI power unit with the booster. I'm still hoping to use my current MC, though it does have a 1" bore. I'll see how it goes, may have to replace with a 7/8" down the road. Maybe I'll post some pics after I install. That is of course if I can successfully squeeze it in next to the trans.

6696

Originally Posted by 6696

Hey I sure appreciate all the guidance here. I just ordered the TCI power unit with the booster. I'm still hoping to use my current MC, though it does have a 1" bore. I'll see how it goes, may have to replace with a 7/8" down the road. Maybe I'll post some pics after I install. That is of course if I can successfully squeeze it in next to the trans.

6696

One thing you didn't mention was the other end of your brake system. Do you have disc/disc or disc/drum? Do you have a proportioning valve? Either way, which brake assemblies are you using? It matters.

Hi,

Yes I have a proportioning valve. The current setup is Disc/Drum which I will be switching over to Disc/Disc when I rebuild the new Ford 9" I just bought. The guy before me bought everything at Speedway. So the front calipers are from there. I was going to just buy their rear conversion to match as I don't have the funds to switch both front and back to a wilwood setup right now.