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Well I was looking at buying this 33 Chevy truck but looks like I can't but still might try to if I can find out how much it would be for some parts so I was wondering if anyone knows where and how much I can get a front and rear end for this thing? What kind should I get. The guy that's selling it said that I should put a corvair (sp) front end and it will bolt right up and a S10 rear end. I don't know about those though. What do you guy's think I should look into and how much would they be? Also it will need suspension and leaf springs all around because they are completely rusted through so any info on that with prices. Only thing is that this thing is a sweet style but a bit too much for what is there because a lot of rust and no flooring, needs new windows, the engine, tranny and rear end is completely rusted apart and broken parts all over the engine and all so I was thinking of a crate engine.
Let me know what you guy's think and like I said, I need prices on the items so I can add it all up and show my dad to see if it's worth fixing up and putting all this money into it.

Thanks a ton in advance.

Well what would be a price range? I am not sure on what I would put on it though. The guy said a s10 front and rear end would work but I don't know about that. So anymore info on that would be great.
Thanks.

Originally posted by Streets
What the price the guys askin' fer it??

In the add on the link FMX posted it said 3,000 or 3,500.

Originally posted by FMXhellraiser
Well what would be a price range? I am not sure on what I would put on it though. The guy said a s10 front and rear end would work but I don't know about that. So anymore info on that would be great.
Thanks.

If you get the truck, buy a 1980's S10, remove the cab and bed, tip the cab on it's side, cut out the floors and vwalia, you have every part you need to compleate the truck except the engine and transmission and interior ( seats may be usable ) and glass. The s10 floors can be cut to fit and the frame ( much newer than 71 yrs old ) can be modafied and the rear end, front end are there, even disc front brakes, not disc rears but that's an easy conversion. The master cylender could probably be used 2. You'd probably look at 3,000 for the engine, 680 for an auto tranny, 199 for a trick lokar shifter, 100 bucks for pedal assembly's, 500-1,000 for the S10, Glass shoulden't be all that expensive, 3,000 for a professional interior job, about 1,800 DIYing it. Some S10's have cool mag wheels so I won't put the 400-800 it would cost for those, about 400 to paint it, 300-400 for tires and about 600 for a rear disc brake kit if you wanted 1. I hope I didn't miss anyting.

Thanks a lot Matt! The guy said to use an 80s S10 as well or a Chevy II front end. Here is a Chevy II that I found that would be nice to use the engine, tranny, wheels and front end and seats.... Check this out. I wouldn't be able to get it but would find another deal like it again I am sure. http://adcache.collectorcartraderonl...4/73524834.htm
I have been talking to my dad and he said if I sell both of my dirtbikes then I can go ahead and get it but he doesn't wan't me too. My only problem is finding someone to buy my bikes and one of my drum sets in time before this thing sells. The guy said lot's of people are looking at it and it will sell really soon. Only thing I would need to do to the truck is resand everything, cut some peices out and put new ones in, then where the roof connects to the cab there are big gaps all the way around and that's how these things came the guy said because some other things are like that too and I don't like that.
Let me know what you think and if you got any ideas on how I can fix things like this on a cheap budget like using rubber and all if I can get some for the roof and cab.

Do you think on the frame I can use the s10 frame and then narrow the front down? The guy told me that I should probably do that. The 33 has a U frame but the guy said that if I boxed it off then it will hold up really well with a 350 in it and all but said I can use a s10 frame and that would be even better. (of course).

That year Nova Subframe won't work for what you want to do. If you go Nova, you want 68-72. I really like the idea of mounting the 33 Body on the complete S-10 frame. Compare the wheel bases and track widths to see how close they are. Then if you do like Matt suggested you can end up with a lot of the modern stuff from the S-10 like IFS, disk brakes, power steering etc. And there are kits, brackets and headers available to put a SBC into an S-10 that should be adaptable to the project. If you buy the car for $3500, and search well for an S-10, you could end up with a running project for less than $10k, maybe a lot less depending on how much work you can do, how well you shop and scrounge and how wild you want to get with the project.

Good luck

Pat

Thanks a lot man. Yeah I am talking to my stepmom about this. She at first said hell no that I don't need to do that but now she is understanding that I wan't to do this and it's right for me. She agrees with me instead of my dad because my dad says that I should get something fixed up already and she said no that I wan't to do it myself and plus money wise. So if I do get this then I am going to look into the S 10 thing for sure and I will do ALL the work myself no matter what it takes. My parents thought that I wanted to buy this truck and then put another 15000 into it but I told them that I can get 1992 S 10's for 2500 and less (I looked on truck trader and they have a lot around here for that price) so a 80's one would be cheaper but maybe I should go with something newer. Also there are a lot of S10's around that have 350 swaps in them so I can use the engine if I find one. I wouldn't jump on one right away so while I would be waiting to find an S10 I can start doing body and frame work and get it all prepped (even though I should do the frame and then front end and rear and engine, etc) but oh well I have to do it different I guess. There is a lot of work needed to this truck and it might take me 2 years to get almost done but I think it would be well worth it. It is something I can afford and I will have to make some sacrafices with selling my bikes and all but oh well I can't have both I guess and plus when it's all done I will feel a whole lot better with it since I paid for it all myself instead of barrowing money from my parent's. Even if I barrow money from them I still feel like I am cheating myself because if I didn't do that then I wouldn't be able to get the truck and that's what happens to people sometimes.... it's hard to explain and I am kind of getting off the subject here but you guy's get it I am sure.

Why would you work on a frame that your going to replace NE way, with an S10 frame from the donor S10, get whatever you can get for an S10 but try to get 1 with a 4.3 Vortech cause a 4.3 Vortech is closley related to the SBC 350, make shure it's NOT a 4X4 cause they are cheaper and the 4X4 would only be good if you were making a monster truck '33 Chevy truck which, would look doofy cause there small narrow cabs and beds and would look weird with big red Skyjacker suspension and 44" mudswampers. That truck would look good down low, there are many kits for lowering an S10 which you could use cause you would reuse the S10 frame and suspenion. a '33 Chevy truck had 60- 65 Hp stock which would go about 35, down a hill with wind behind it.

Yeah I forgot to edit this about the frame. I wasn't thinking clear, lol. But yeah I wouldn't lift the thing at all. Got to remember that I am not a red neck, haha. Well I do like some newer trucks with lift but I like the baja (sp) style to them though. But yeah I would drop the thing really low in the front and not too much in the back. I will make the back a tad bit higher than the front. I would like to put some pretty wide tires on the back but I don't think that's possible with the fenders that aren't part of the bed because inside of that fender there is a peice of bent metal that attatches to the bed and then the fender attatches to it. Original wheels on that thing are 17" the guy said and he said I can go a bit more wider on it and it will still fit and not pop out as much. I won't use a S10 engine unless the person put a 350 engine swap on it. One thing I would have to change if I put a 350 in it is that I would have to move the steering column and all because it will hit the engine big time. I will have to drop it down a lot and then straight to the front a bit. Also what kind of radiator could I get for the thing since it is really skinny?

Originally posted by FMXhellraiser
Yeah I forgot to edit this about the frame. I wasn't thinking clear, lol. But yeah I wouldn't lift the thing at all. Got to remember that I am not a red neck, haha. Well I do like some newer trucks with lift but I like the baja (sp) style to them though. But yeah I would drop the thing really low in the front and not too much in the back. I will make the back a tad bit higher than the front. I would like to put some pretty wide tires on the back but I don't think that's possible with the fenders that aren't part of the bed because inside of that fender there is a peice of bent metal that attatches to the bed and then the fender attatches to it. Original wheels on that thing are 17" the guy said and he said I can go a bit more wider on it and it will still fit and not pop out as much. I won't use a S10 engine unless the person put a 350 engine swap on it. One thing I would have to change if I put a 350 in it is that I would have to move the steering column and all because it will hit the engine big time. I will have to drop it down a lot and then straight to the front a bit. Also what kind of radiator could I get for the thing since it is really skinny?

I knew you wouldn't want to use the S10 engine but the 4.3 is closely related to the 350 so the tranny should be usable. I'm not shure on the radiator.

Oh alright I see what your saying. Well if it comes down to it I could use the engine until I get a 350 because that will be the hard part for me to get money for after I spend all this money on the truck and the S10. And then I can drive it around and all.
Now this thing is like a 6 volt right? If I got the S10 then can I use all that wiring and fuse box and put it into the 33 or what would I have to do with all of that?

You should be able to use a lot of the S-10 wiring. The light Fixtures will work with 12v bulbs, as will the 6 volt wiring to them, if they are in good shape. None of the electric motors like the heater fan or windshield wipers from the 33 would work, if it even had them. There are plenty of retrofit 12 volt units that will fit though. Will make it easier if you keep as much of the S-10 firewall as possible. Also regarding the steering, the 4.3 V-6 is basically a small block V-8 with 2 cylinders removed. So it is the same width as the V-8. I am not posiitve, but I don't think you need to do a lot with the steering. There are even headers made for the swap that get around the stock steering.

Pat

Yeah there's no wipers on this truck or heating or nothing. Just lights and the speedometer and a 2 other gauges. All pretty plain and simple. I would like to put AC on it but that isn't too big a deal. The steering will be the hard part because under that hood is really skinny.

If you want A/C, get an S10 with A/C. Heater core and maby even the windshield wiper motors and arms would fit, with the correct size blades for the windshield of course. If the '33 had windshield wipers they would have been vacume operated, usally vacume is provided from the fuel pump but on some ( like my '51 ) the vacume is provided from the carb, just a little FYI. Watch trucks on Spike, there building a '34 International with a blown SBC, it's project is called the hairy hauler.