Thread: Horse Power or Torque what is more important?

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It doesn't really matter if you've got enough torque to pull an elephant inside out by hooking a log chain to his trunk through his arse. 302 HP won't get you 147 MPH. No way. No how.

Also, what RPM is the 302 HP? It's been adequately explained that torque and HP are not independent. You can calculate one from the other at any point from idle to redline.

. . . now where did I put that trolling motor?????

Here's a question for ya Dark Knight: How long is your local drag strip? I know most are 1/4 mile but not all. Down here in Florida, I go to the Emerald Coast Raceway every once in a blue moon. And despite how cool it is, it is a 1/8 mile strip. Which means almost every stock V8 Camaro down here is getting very least 11's but mostly 9's and 10's. The fact that the strip here is kinda short isn't actually bad for the street legal guys, but for the Outlaw Pro-Mod guys, half of them cut the engine off before they cross the line.


On a different note:
I can't wait to get my Charger running so I can put some of these rice rocket boys to shame. Although with a stock 318 I am gonna have to pull some serious mods before I stick her out there among the imports that way half as much as my car and are running Nitrous. All I got to say to those guys is they are not racing cars, they are racing a bundle of money they squeezed into a big fat tank that they shoved into the back seat.

Is it possible that most of the controversy on this thread is/was caused by a typographical error when he typed 302 instead of 502 for torque? Even then 502 ft. lb. is very good torque for a 350, but possible. In my past career the people in science articles would really nail you for such an error but still typos did occur and I have made a few on this Forum myself. Still the edit feature can be used to carefully look over critical facts before final submission of a post. This guy probably really has a 502 ft. lb. 350 and that is more reasonable than a 4.6 sec 1/4 using liquid O2 in a platimum block on another thread! Hey a 10 second 1/4 mile time is pretty impressive, and even more so in a street class; maybe we should notify Ron Howard for the American Grafitti sequel with this car as the star! Just for curiosity I would ask Streets what class he ran in with that 8 flat time, was that in the wild and wooley "Altered" class of some sort? Again, in whatever class, to drive a car to a strip and run 8 flat in the quarter is TRULY amazing and we have no reason not to believe it! Still 4.6 on LOX is more than a stretch!

Don Shillady
Retired Scientist/teen rodder

guys i do applogize on the horsepower rating it was a damn typo, i was in middle of talking to some one about another engine while i was in middle of posting i got the digits messed up i do appologize the ratings on my car are 450 hp and 502 tq

the midnight madness race bud is not a once a year race it happens frequently, and to answer the other ? about the length of the track for this i am not sure i know we race 1/4 mile..but of course the track has two sets of scoreboards and two sets of finsih lines, when we race the only boards being used are the ones at the first finish line i hope this helps with your question. sorry again on the typo

Originally posted by Streets

'Nother wannabe livin' under a bridge.. A.K.A. HEAD??... [/B]

You need to back off streets and relax, so i typo'd on the specs what is your problem with me? and who is HEAD? and why are you claiming i am this person?

i would be more then happy to fax you all the specs on the damn car just so you can relax and leave me alone or come to my house 1332 Lea Street Tucson arizona or call me at 520 559-7434 to get in touch with me to arrange for me getting you the specs so you will get off my case, ok streets?

Originally posted by Streets
Hehehe... Could it be the same person that doesn't now how a "cowl induction" hood works too??

like i said you need to relax and stop causing problems i dont care who you are "Streets" you do not need to act like this...see above post for contact info if you really want to meet face to face to talk to me if not then relax and just have fun.

I thought there might be a typo. However, I'm curious about the weight of your car. To ge 147 MPH with 450 HP at the rear wheels, your car would need to weigh in at about 2100 Lbs. That's a pretty light Camaro.

I'm not really doubting your word, but Newton had a pretty good handle on physics, and the numbers aren't working out.

Henry, i am not saying you are doubting my word bud, lot of people find it hard to believe and i dont blame them, what ever ii can do to help prove it to you let me know.
The car weighs little over 2700 lbs the photo is not the most recent photo, i am having one of the team members photograph the car this weekend and the engine again as well the photo of the engine the one that was posted is not very good but we are going to try again and now you will be able to see the difference in the car from how it looks in this photo... we removed as much weight as we could but, still have alot to do to it. i want to try to keep it looking pretty you know? in the new photo you will see some of the things we did to the exterior we will put it on the lift and take photos of under carriage as well.