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A box full of Autometer gauges came in from Summit the same day the O.D. did...
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I will be building these into the dash center-stack. I have a '98 dash that is a lot more "curvey" then the '88 was. I will strip the pad off it and recover it in carbon fiber.
Spent time modeling up the dash pad and gauges tonight. This is just a quick and dirty but you can see what I am going for. Everything will be covered with carbon fiber. I changed the color of the gauge pod so you can see it.
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The lower set of gauges will be built in under the HVAC controls
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The alternator brackets are getting laser cut shortly. I sent the files to my buddy in the fab shop yesterday. KOOL!

Thanks everyone!, I think the wheels look "right" on there. Simple and uncluttered.
Going up to Bay City in the morning to pick up the trans. Talked to Fred Thursday and he was painting it. Said it was ready and it will be one stout piece. He said I couldn't have found a better core if it was brand new... Good. I will haul the Gear Vendors unit up there so he can take a look at it.
He sent me some pics as he was stuffing the trans...
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Thanks for looking
I have tomorrow and Sunday so look for updates.
Mark

Fred V is the man.. been doing my 400s and customers trans for 20 years great guy to work with just like most guys from bay city

You'll really like the overdrive Mark. Friend of mine has been running one behind a 400 for about 10 years now and still hasn't broke it!!! Lord know he tries!!!!!!

The O.D. will make the van "drivable". I knew I was going this direction eventually. Just didn't think it would be this soon. It all worked out so I guess it was meant to be. I much prefer getting this done now anyway. saves the headache down the road.
I've got a four day coming up this weekend. I promised one to my wife and I hope to get the right front wheel well installed and the left front well on it's way.
Last weekend I worked on the rear tubs. They are about 80% welded right now. I will get those finished up this coming weekend and get them installed also. This will be a big deal. getting the tin work wrapped up means we can start moving forward with the doghouse reconstruction and actually slinging some sealer and paint!
Last weekend was spent tack welding and building the Right Front wheel well.
While I was welding Mel made a pattern out of the last of the green cardboard. We laid that out on a sheet of 22ga and stomp sheared it to shape. After getting it to fit well in the opening we taped a piece of 1 inch heater hose to the tire and spun it to check clearances. We had a close condition at full jounce/right lock as you can see by the witness marks inside the black marker "oval".
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We cut this out with the plasma cutter and decided to make a "bicycle fender" to improve the clearance.
The clearance pocket from inside the van
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From underneath
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Sunday we made a hammer form out of a piece of 1 x 12. We cut a slot out to duplicate the clearance pocket, routed the edge with a round over bit, clamped a piece of 22ga in place and went to town with the BFH and numerous forming tools made from chunks of lumber and a few body dollies ...
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After a few minutes we had the shape well on it's way.
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Drawing out the corners with a body dollie.
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Fairly complete at this point. Took about 10 minutes to make this piece.
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Pulled the "die" apart to check the damages... Of course the parts are flat as we made them in a flat die. Here I am trimming off the flanges.
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To get the "fender" to match the contourof the inner well we ran it through the shrinker.
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A little shrinking on both sides pulled it into a perfect arch to match the wheel well radius.
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Still have a lot of fitting to do but the hard part is done...
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Have to do a little more trimming on the old structure to get the pocket where it needs to go.
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This will work very well. A lot of work for something you won't even see. right?
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Thanks for looking
Mark

Friday and Saturday we spent working on fender wells. The Right front is just about ready to weld in as are both rear tubs. I want to do some major cleaning and painting in the rear before we get those in for good and the right front has just a bit of tweaking to get it ready for welding...
Here you can see the front clearance pocket tacked in place. I am developing a reinforcement for the outside edge.
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The dogleg piece above the tire is the new closeout for the firwall to inner well joint. This is on the inside. The holes you see are for spot welding the piece in place.
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Here it is from the front. This new ledge will carry the front edge of the inner well along with the rear of the forward closeout as soon as we get it developed. We are working around the HVAC box on the front of the firewall. We had to do a little trimming on that to get it to fit. I need to get pics of that. Didn't think to take any while we were trimming...
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This is without the new dogleg piece. You can see the two pieces we have coming together below it. Thes will be spot welded to the new piece from underneath.
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This is the outer corner of the "chopped off" front fender. See the little triangle area I need to fill?
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I made a greenboard template and bent up this little cover that will get welded in and seam sealed with the rest of this mess.
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Snapped in place...
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Here is all of the pieces clecoed in place.
We actually used most of the old inner pieces we cut out. Just moved them inboard and up a bit to make room...
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Looking from the drivers side. I have to admit we cut out more than we needed too. We will be adding some of the pieces back in as we weld it up.
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I am very surprised the HVAC unit fits as well as it does. Just a little trimming on the bottom flange and heater core box and we have plenty of room for tire.

Thats going to look good ...You just keep PLUGing away at it

Nice stuff Mark, should make for lots of extra clearance on the front.

We got a lot of little things done today. Mel worked on the rear tubs and inner fenders. Getting the inner sheet metal cleaned up and ready for self-etching primer. I want to get all of the inner sheet metal primed and painted before we weld the tubs in for good.
The right side is just about ready.
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I still need to finish up the welding on the drivers side. It'll get there...
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I was doing the same thing up front. I did make a change to the clearance pocket though. I cut out the inside edge of the pocket and smoothed it out with a flat piece of steel to get rid of the hard edge. Now, if the tire hits it, it will only see a flat surface. Much easier on the tire and wheel well.
This is the piece I made to smooth out the clearance bump.
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Here it is all tacked in and cleaned up, ready for some primer and seam sealer...
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Thanks for looking...

Thanks guys. The tin work just seems to be taking forever! We are getting there though.
Kind of took the day off yesterday. My back was very tight and we had a family brunch at the wifes folks. In the afternoon I worked on getting a new air filter/regulator installed and set up for spraying. Running big 3/8th inch fittings and half inch hose for the HVLP guns. Should do the job. I had a little paint project coming into the shop today so I was getting things set-up for that.
This is what I'll be spraying.
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He wants it tri-colored. White/flame red/black and he ordered all of the paint from Summit so I'll get a first hand experience with their line in a few days. Two part Urethane so it will be pretty tough for this little race car.
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I'll start a project thread for this in a day or two.

Yup, the sheetmetal work can eat up many, many hours of build time!!!! Then, when you're all done, and do this kind of quality work nobody notices it anyway!!!!

Then you'll put carpet over it

Haven't updated the thread in a while. Been busy painting an MG and putting in some O.T. at the real job.
Here are a few shots of the MG after I finished it up last weekend.
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I worked yesterday morning and puttered in the shop in the afternoon. I got my new Alston Varishocks last week and also the rebuilt Corvette rack so I got the new rack and shocks mocked up. It looks like I will have to do a little clearancing on the upper arm to clear the spring at full rebound, not much, just a bit.
Mel came out this morning, said he was going stir-crazy waiting to get back on the van. I said me too...
We worked on the right front wheel well today. It is all welded in tonight and ready for primer and seam sealer... It's not perfect but it will do the job and it is super solid after being welded in.
Welding in the inner half. This is all spot welded in from the top.
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Working on the outer half. The lower flange is spot welded to the floor and the underside is welded to the inner half.
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Mel worked on "fixing" some of the booboo's we made while cutting out the inner. We did not need to go as high as we did so some of this stuff is getting put back in.
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This will get spot welded in AFTER I have all of the seam sealing done on the outer panel.
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I'm jealous!!!! Sure do want to get everybody else's stuff out of my garage and get back on my own!!!!!! Looks good Mark, sometimes a casual weekend on the project is just what a guy needs!

Thanks Dave, Yea, this is kind of like therapy for me. I get a lot of my frustrations out cutting, banging and welding on this van. I am pretty mello by the end of the day.
I worked at the paying job all day Saturday but I got out in the shop at 4:30 or so. Did some cleanup work on the rear tubs and finished up most of the welding on the driver side. I think I got a blister from all of that dang trigger pulling...
Have any of you used Eastwoods Metal Prep? I highly recommend it for taking off surface rust and general cleanup on "weathered" steel. I sprayed a bit of it on the finger print rust on the tubs and wiped it down with a ScotchBrite pad and it looks better then new.
Before the cleanup
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You can see my "hand prints" on the steel from working with it.
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After about 2 minutes of work... Shiny clean. And the Metal Prep leaves a phosphate coating so this will not rust from finger print acid again.
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Mel came out today and we hit it kinda hard... We had a few small panels to make to get the body ready tto weld in the tubs so we started doing that. Mel made a pattern to replace the rear mud "skirt" at the rear of the wheel well. This is a flat panel that we put a nice bead rolled edge on to stiffen it up and add some strength back into the lower rear fender.
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This is where it goes at the bottom of the rear tub.
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Welded in place. Now the lower fender doesn't flop around....
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We also made some little cover plates to weld over the open ends of the original rails where we cut them out for tire clearance.
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After taking care of all this little stuff we finally got the Pass side tub WELDED IN PLACE!!!! Still have to make some small brackets and closeouts but this is already pretty strong. Even for simple spot welds...
This is the front underneath.
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And this is the rear. You can see where it welded over the top of the "skirt". This made an excellant weld point and adds a lot of strength into the tub mounts
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I'll do a little more welding but once the top gets welded into the side panel and we finish the rear floor flange this will be very strong.
Hopefully next weekend will be a two dayer. I would like to finish up the rears and get going on the left front.
Thanks for looking.
Mark