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    Unhappy Cruic-o-matic Trans

     



    I have a cruic-o-matic trans on my 62 t-bird and its so week and the clutch's mey be burnd .

    So , i want to rebuilt it , but i don't now the real power in it and what could it do on street .

    Or should i fix a c4 tran's or a c6 on the 390 engin .
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    Re: Cruic-o-matic Trans

     



    Originally posted by ali reyadh
    I have a cruic-o-matic trans on my 62 t-bird and its so week and the clutch's mey be burnd .

    So , i want to rebuilt it , but i don't now the real power in it and what could it do on street .

    Or should i fix a c4 tran's or a c6 on the 390 engin .
    think if i was gonna spend any money on a ford trans id try to up date to the C6. the C4 is mighty small and the cruic-o-matic was a good trans in her day but like everything else it may have served its purpose. JMO
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    Hey lt1s10
    do you now wher Could i find a streetr c6 .

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    And also,,,,
    in the new catlog of summit racing ther is a super streetr c4 trans , it can handels up to 450 hp , it also cuold be fixed on a390.

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    Originally posted by ali reyadh
    Hey lt1s10
    do you now wher Could i find a streetr c6 .
    I've always built all of my trans. so I've never bought one, but if i had to i would find somebody local that was good at it and go to him ,tell him what i wanted , agree on a price, agree on a warranty, let him build it and if i had a problem with it i could carry it back to him and make him fix it. personally i wouldn't buy a trans.out of a book(and its done every day without a problem) the dif is i know what goes into all of them and the shop down the st. can do it as well as anybody, if he knows what he is doing. as far as the C4 goes ive built a lot of them, but never for racing and my opinion is not very good, but let some of the other people give you their opinion about them, before you make up your mind. for about the same money id go C6 JMO
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    Are you sure your in the right gear?

     



    Not writing this to be a smart ass, but not all people are aware that the old cruic-o-matic trannys had a weird shift pattern. If you started out in the D position (the first detent after neutral) the tranny will start out in second gear instead of first.

    For normal driving the shifter should be in the 2rd gear position past neutral. This starts the car out in low and shifts normally through all three foward gears. Many of shift indicators have a green dot in that location.

    If you go with a latter tranny, the C6 would be the best bet. Not sure, but besides the tranny and torque converter, you will likely have to get the appropriate flex plate and starter.

    Hope this helps.

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    If you want to change the shift pattern to the usual all you have to do is use the valve body from a late 60s and 70s FMX trans which is basicly the same trans.

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    My C-O-M is still working well, but if I had to make an upgrade (or if / when it finally blows) I'd say c6 is the way to go. Especially since your upgraded the 390.

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    Re: Are you sure your in the right gear?

     



    Originally posted by Mike P
    Not writing this to be a smart ass, but not all people are aware that the old cruic-o-matic trannys had a weird shift pattern. If you started out in the D position (the first detent after neutral) the tranny will start out in second gear instead of first.

    For normal driving the shifter should be in the 2rd gear position past neutral. This starts the car out in low and shifts normally through all three foward gears. Many of shift indicators have a green dot in that location.

    If you go with a latter tranny, the C6 would be the best bet. Not sure, but besides the tranny and torque converter, you will likely have to get the appropriate flex plate and starter.

    Hope this helps.
    I didn't know about the cruisomatic having a weird shift pattern, I actully thought the Cruisomatic in my '67 Falcon was a bit weird, cause all you have to do is let off the brake to get moving when it's just in D, my indicator has a dot over the 2 spot but, I never thought anything of it.
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    Most large motor fords past about 1970(I think ) had the c6 transmission behind them. As such, you should be able to either locate a decent core and rebuild it yourself or buy a rebuilt one for your T-bird. As for the C4, it seems to me that there are companies offering a race-built c4 for mustang applications. I Dont know if this helps, but you may be willing to spend the money for a pre-built transmission
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    Re: Re: Re: Are you sure your in the right gear?

     



    Originally posted by Streets
    IF yer drivin' a "Stock Ford" ya should be familiar with the word "WEIRD" Matt... Ask DRG... He knows it too!!
    Hey man, not my car. Mines an AMC. You know, All Made Correctly. But yes, I have driven the thing, and yes, it does feel wierd. The lack of saginaw steering sux. You can tension that box, doesnt work. It also doesnt FEEL right. You can sense the road at all. "Ride Engineered" must mean "You know theres a road there but theres no way in hell you will ever find out whats going on with the car!" And when i find the b@stard who deigned the seats in the Grand marquis and Crown Vics I will PERSONALLY beat him and let him know how it feels to have back pain!
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    Going from memory here......

     



    ........but I just went through this finding a tranny for my 64 Ford. The C6 was introduced in 66. The first year of the C6 had a few minor problems, and the green dot pattern shift pattern (i.e. started out in second when it was put in drive). You guessed it the first tranny I dug up was a 66, I now have one from a 68 428 powered T Bird.

    ali reyadh what ever tranny you get for you Bird it will neeed to be from an FE (352, 390, 406, 427. 428), as that is the only bell housing that will fit you engine. As far as finding a C4 with a 390 bellhousing they are extremely rare. I personally have never seen one but they were supposedly made.

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    And also,,,,
    in the new catlog of summit racing ther is a super streetr c4 trans , it can handels up to 450 hp , it also cuold be fixed on a390.

    a C4 and a 390 bellhousing you can buy , the only thing i want to sey gay's that the c4 is made to RACE use .

    Do you agree with me gay's or should i go with the c6 .

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    Any way Thanks for that guy's .
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    Originally posted by DennyW
    Well, that leaves this Guy out. I don't know about you other Gay's,
    denny, i didnt know.
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