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Is there anyone who makes a manual trans. kit for the 23 or 27 T? Most of the kits I have seen are built for an automatic.

Thanks

SM

what do you mean by manual trans kit? kits are set up for whatever you want if that's what you want, most company's will work with you if they do not offer it.

Originally Posted by Matt167

what do you mean by manual trans kit? kits are set up for whatever you want if that's what you want, most company's will work with you if they do not offer it.

A 23 or 27 T kit that will accept a manual transmission. Total Performance and Speedway only recommend automatics in thei T bucket kits.

SM

It is a question of space for the pedals. I really want to use the 3 speed Chevy stick setup on Project $ 3K, but it looks doubtful. I have one I bought on Ebay, expressly for this project, but now that I size up the foot space available, it will be really tough.

My '27 has a stick setup in it, and it is ok, but Fords got progressively roomier as the years went on.........'27's were bigger than '23's, Model A's were bigger than Model T's, '32's are bigger than Model A's, so on and so forth. The '23 has a very narrow firewall, so an automatic, with it's single pedal has been the transmission of choice.

I have seen '23's with clutch pedals (Norm Gabrowski's T, most notably) so I guess it can be done, but it will take some engineering. I am only 5' 9". so I have a better shot at it than you at your 6' 1" (see, size does really matter ) but even for me it may be too tight. The secondary issue is linkages. Automatics don't need clutch linkage, and the shifter linkage is more simple, so most people go that route.

I haven't given up yet, and if I can fit 3 pedals into the T, I will do it. If not, a turbo 350 will have to go in there.


Don

I was going to buy a red '23 T bucket with a Toploader 4spd/ 289 in it, wasn't a bad deal at $4,500 but I decided agenst it.

>Is there anyone who makes a manual trans. kit for the 23 or 27 T? Most of >the kits I have seen are built for an automatic.

As you've noticed, most of the T-bucket "kit" frames are set up for a small block Chevy and TH350, but that same crossmember set up will also accept most GM 3 or 4 speed manual transmissions also because the trans mount location is the same. Linkage and clutch pedal space is the killer, but the availability of hydraulic throw out bearings has simplified, or at least reduced the headache somewhat over mechanical linkage. I'm building a T-bucket and am considering a four speed. The brake master cylinder will mount under the floor in regular T-bucket fashion, but I'm going to design a clutch pedal that swings from under the dash and activates a clutch master cylinder on the interior side of the firewall. This might be a bit unorthodox, but it should help alleviate the crowded pedal situation.

Bob

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecId=1097

Originally Posted by techinspector1

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...asp?RecId=1097

Thanks guys

Sm

Just got one of the hydraulic throwout bearings, sure does eliminate a lot of clutch linkage vs. the headers hassle!!!! The Tilton pedals are really first rate, a bit spendy but IMO well worth it... Lots of compainies selling clutch master cylinders now. If you don't want to pop the big bucks for a fancy aftermarket one, Ford pickups around '85, '86 had a hydraulic clutch cylinder that is a relatively small size, too.

Dave: I've never used one of the hydraulic throwout bearings you mention, but have seen them in magazines. What do you have to do to get them hooked up?
Any modifications to the trans snout or bellhousing?


Don

Not on most, I guess. I believe most are application specific. The one I got is made for a Tremec 600. Haven't even started mounting it, tranny isn't here yet. I'll let ya know.....