Thread: T-5 shifter location change
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03-18-2007 07:04 PM #1
T-5 shifter location change
I have a 1990 WC T-5 # 13 52 199 from a Mustang that has a the shifter located at the end of the tail shaft . This located the shifter under where my seats will be located . It measured from bell housing a total of 26 inches to shifter center .
I started thinking that maybe a truck trans that has the shifter forward would work but the first gear would be all wrong .
I was at a swap meet to day and had some pics with me and i ran upon on a
trans from a 1989 S 10 4 cyl 5spd T-5 #13 52 193. I looked it over and and it seemed the Tail shaft was the same bolt pattern as the T-5 at home and the shifter being located forward on the tail shaft would work perfect . The guy shot me a price of $75 and so i figured hey i cant go wrong see them on ebay for twice that amount . So it went into the wifes car with a look and statment of something of grease and a cleaning .
So to shorten story got it home swapped top plates and tail shafts and i have a WC T-5 trans that will fit a Model A perfect . It moved the shifter forward over 7 inches total placing it in front of seats . I think i will turn the shifter around .
I will have to address the speedo the 90 is gear driven and the 89 is electronic and in slightly different positions . I think i figured a way of swapping them over and putting the electric one on the 90 WC .Last edited by bluestang67; 03-18-2007 at 07:43 PM.
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03-18-2007 07:07 PM #2
Looking close the output shaft and gear box look identical . The only difference i see is first gear being the Chevy S 10 is smaller then the mustang .
First pic is of 1990 WC T-5 second pic is of 89 S 10 T-5Last edited by bluestang67; 03-18-2007 at 07:58 PM.
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03-19-2007 07:11 PM #3
Cool!
Info like that is always good to know.
Pat
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03-19-2007 08:36 PM #4
That's some real good improvising!!! Goes to show there's a whole lot more to Hot Rodding then buying a bunch of bolt ons!!!!Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, Live for Today!
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Learning must be difficult for those who already know it all!!!!
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03-21-2007 03:22 PM #5
I did find out the S10 was WC from 89 till 97 . Most likely the tail shafts should be close on quite a few.Last edited by bluestang67; 03-21-2007 at 03:32 PM.
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03-21-2007 07:29 PM #6
Great info and pictures.
I've heard different stories on the swap but these are the first pictures I've seen.
I have a 63 Falcon I am dropping a 68 302 into soon, but haven't decided what tranny to use, an auto or standard. I have a 60's Ford galaxie 3 speed, but wanted something with overdrive and that T-5 setup may convince me to keep the fun in it with a stick shift.Dan
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03-21-2007 08:39 PM #7
Shorty thanks it had me standing on my head . I wanted a stick and these are more available then the 4 spd. Its the new era of auto parts .
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03-21-2007 08:43 PM #8
Dave i know you allready had the answers and was just waiting to see how far i'd get . LOL Really all you guys are great .
Hemi T Thank You
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03-22-2007 05:58 AM #9
I have been down this T5 route, here are all the links I collected... Read thru them. Lots of them have info about speedo changes and tailshaft swaps.
Dagenham 4 speed
Transmission on 1960s Ford and Mercury Models, from Clymer Publications
maintenance and repair handbooks for Ford 1960-64]
G-Force Transmissions and Long Shifters
Identify T5 tag
Identifying and Assembling a T5 5 Speed
Identifying and Assembling a T5 5
Speed
Modern
Driveline - Classic Mustang T5 swaps, Tremec Conversions, also Cougars. Falcons, Ford Ranger swaps
Modern
Driveline - T5 History
Muncie 4 ~
ChevelleStuff.com
T5 Swap, T5
Conversion, Mustang T5 Swap, Auto to Manual Transmission -FordMuscle.com
T5 tech1
T5 trans Building a Sports car
T5-Transmission
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03-22-2007 07:15 AM #10
Originally Posted by Dave SeversonCharlie
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03-22-2007 04:51 PM #11
Gusaroo the t5 tech 1 is exactly what im doing wish i would have seen it earlier saved me some brain pain . Thank you and hope more see it . The epoxy and shim had been planned on also so i must be on the right track . This gives me option of electronic or gear driven speedo .
Thanks Cff
Trans sitting pretty good in location .Last edited by bluestang67; 03-22-2007 at 05:00 PM.
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03-22-2007 08:25 PM #12
Cool. glad it worked for you. I wanted a t5 real bad (for the OD), even bought a nice one. But I succumbed to all the critics that told me it wouldn't stand up behind my 454...
looks like your on your way. good luck, post more pics!!!!
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03-23-2007 12:01 PM #13
Gus, are you willing to part with yours?
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03-23-2007 01:35 PM #14
Sorry. sold it on eBay.
Little hint, check out your local late model mustang clubs and message boards. First thing those guys do is rip out their t5's to swap in big $$ trannies. I picked mine up at http://www.lmmc-ct.com/forums/ for peanuts and sold it for twice that on eBay. BTW, eBay is not bad either, it only cost the buyer $90 to ship mine from CT to Fla via UPS...
CAREFUL, there are ford style T5's and Chevy style T5's. Make sure you take note of the tranny mounting bolt patterns. I accidently bought a mustang T5 thinking I could bolt it to a chevy IROC T5 bellhousing...WRONG! But, I have heard that an astrovan bellhousing will mount a ford T5 to a chevy motor, but I never looked into it. I have seen a picture of one of these bells on eBay and it looks like it might be true.
If you are looking for overdrive for a GM (like I was), look into the New Process MY6 A833 tranny, relatively cheap, unknown and durable. Thats what I ended up going with. Google it.Last edited by Gusaroo; 03-23-2007 at 01:47 PM.
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