Thread: stabbing the 4 speed

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well im gonna give it a go and stab a saginaw in the nova for a while anyway, the track is still in limbo <jack roush is suposeedly tying it up in court for a while, yes that jack roush>, so i figure ill get the knowledge and expierience of doing something like this and get a 4 speed at the same time. i have the pedals, z-bar, crossmemeber <in an early nova you have to notch the crossmember for the automatics> even got a flywheel. just need a shifter and a clutch now. wont hurt it to bad. trans only has 39k original miles on it, im not expecting it to last very long beating on it hard, no 7500 rpm shifts until i get a better trans, ill stick to 6k's for now. but i say what the hey. ill take some pictures and keep ya updated. yanked it out of the vega tonight gonna do mock up probably sunday after the clutch in the truck is done. so many projects.....

.......p.s. dave when are you going to sell me that doug nash ?

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

.......p.s. dave when are you going to sell me that doug nash ?

Soon as I find that extra $7K laying around to replace the whole set up with a G-Force 5 speed........

why not go for a tremec or a jerico?

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

why not go for a tremec or a jerico?

Cuz I want a real drag racin' stlye 5 speed instead of just a redesigned top loader..... The price would be for the clutch, flywheel, trans, and shifter... When ya build big torque big blocks ya can't use the cheap stuff.......

Other reason, the G-Force is similar design to my trusty Doug Nash, just newer and capable of handling more torque.... Like the Doug Nash, maintenance is easy and gear selection is almost unlimited....

well dave if your after hardcore, you could always get a liberty

u can get them used on flebay once and a while. i dont think their cert's run out?? well thats why i have a rev limiter ................................................................................... just looked at the clock 12:04 2 years ago today i won the mothers day weekend race for mom....scooter

Scooter, this is the one to run.... Hi dollar, but really good stuff. When you get one of these you can just snicker at the Jericho's.....

just to run 11's dave? jeeeez ill just fab my own stuff to run an A833 in that case those are pretty stout

11's???? Don't think I could throttle stop the thing back enough to run that slow!!!!!

Anyway, look at the construction of the case... Much easier to due maintenance and change gear ratio's on then any of the OEM based cases....

Used to run the Hemi 4 speeds, stout units, especially if you're going to put it in a small block car.... I thought the separation between 2nd and 3rd was a bit wide... Those small blocks really work nice with a 5 speed, just redline the tach and start pullin' the handle!!!! A V-Gate shifter on a Doug Nash is dang near impossible to miss a shift with and when your run 5th at a 1:1 ratio you can keep the engine right in the power band all the way through...

isnt the long brand shifters the good ones to use? yes and the a833s are cheaper then these clowns wanting 1500-2500 for muncies. all youd have to do is drill the scattershield for the chrysler bolt pattern right? they ahve differnt splines to 18 and 32? i think.

I think it will be hard to Find one of them Mopar 833 4-speeds . But if you do find one I have a good Link for trans parts . I would say your best bet is to find a Super T10 . I know of a guy that has a 62 Vette with a built 377 an a super T10 . He runs High 10s all day and never broke that T10 .

t-10s on ebay are 500+ a833s are 300 and down about the same price as a saginaw !!! i used to ahve a79 coded t-10 worst thing i ever did in life was sell that transmission what is the link?

Try your Local Crags List . Last year I saw them from $250 to $400 Bucks . And a Lot of them have the 2.88 First gear . And I think there is one with a 3.06 First gear From the 1977 to 80 Z/28s

Originally Posted by gassersrule_196

isnt the long brand shifters the good ones to use? yes and the a833s are cheaper then these clowns wanting 1500-2500 for muncies. all youd have to do is drill the scattershield for the chrysler bolt pattern right? they ahve differnt splines to 18 and 32? i think.

Clutch splines and the lenth of the input shaft is the only deal.... There was a company that made an adapter plate for them.... Maybe someone on here with a more "active memory" then mine will remember the name.......

The Super T-10's are a very good small block tranny, too... Fairly sure that Lakewood has the bolt pattern on one of their sbc scattershields.... A super T-10 with either a Long or a V-gate shifter would make a great setup for your small block....

i meant that id have to make my own bolt pattern for the a833 but if those holes are already there cool!! heck even mr gasket made a v-gate style shifter didnt they? super t-10's are going the way of the muncie $$$$$ as of right now anyway. i sure as heck wish i could find that adapter! a guy in one of the new mags i think it was hot rod?? has a cherry black ss camaro drag car with an a833 in it.